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Tom@Charlton wrote:
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Congrats Phil - great effort.

As for Plymouth - looks like only a win will save them from relegation - massive week next week - Home vs Liverpool...

Wow, amazed by this!  What has happened at Plymouth this season??

Have any Champions been relegated the following season Paul?  (Sorry Ben)

Honestly hope you stay up, league wouldn't be the same without you.
Not a clue tbh - keep conceding goals late on... losing at home against teams I should be beating isn't helping either

Plymouth need a massive overhaul but hopefully can do so from the PL and not the Championship - if the board decide to keep me on that is...
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I blame Ashley Cole.
I even dropped him this week...
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Ben@Plymouth wrote:
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I blame Ashley Cole.
I even dropped him this week...
Still blame him!!!! Generally.
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Ben@Plymouth wrote:
Rob@Barcelona wrote:
I blame Ashley Cole.
I even dropped him this week...
Considering your comments I'd look at a few things, is your players Stamina Superb? Is your team understanding, superb? Any player over 30 will struggle to play week in week out? Are all your players happy? Even 1 unhappy player for 1 week will drag team performance down. Played enough friendlies when changing players/tactics? 

If all that is good, then maybe look at transfers? LH/RH are probs most important players in CAT, so should be your best players,l. Dont forget a DY can play LH/RH. 

Just my opinion.
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Rob@Barcelona wrote:
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Rob@Barcelona wrote:
I blame Ashley Cole.
I even dropped him this week...
Still blame him!!!! Generally.


Is this since he joined Derby or does it predate that?
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Phil@Watford wrote:
Ben@Plymouth wrote:
Rob@Barcelona wrote:
I blame Ashley Cole.
I even dropped him this week...
Considering your comments I'd look at a few things, is your players Stamina Superb? Is your team understanding, superb? Any player over 30 will struggle to play week in week out? Are all your players happy? Even 1 unhappy player for 1 week will drag team performance down. Played enough friendlies when changing players/tactics? 

If all that is good, then maybe look at transfers? LH/RH are probs most important players in CAT, so should be your best players,l. Dont forget a DY can play LH/RH. 

Just my opinion.
Thanks Phil, really useful here - will take a look - need to drag one performance out of the team here next week and then can hopefully reset everything...
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Tom@Charlton wrote:
Rob@Barcelona wrote:
Ben@Plymouth wrote:
Rob@Barcelona wrote:
I blame Ashley Cole.
I even dropped him this week...
Still blame him!!!! Generally.


Is this since he joined Derby or does it predate that?
In our hearts we all know he is probably at fault for everything, ever.
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Ben@Plymouth wrote:
Phil@Watford wrote:
Ben@Plymouth wrote:
Rob@Barcelona wrote:
I blame Ashley Cole.
I even dropped him this week...
Considering your comments I'd look at a few things, is your players Stamina Superb? Is your team understanding, superb? Any player over 30 will struggle to play week in week out? Are all your players happy? Even 1 unhappy player for 1 week will drag team performance down. Played enough friendlies when changing players/tactics? 

If all that is good, then maybe look at transfers? LH/RH are probs most important players in CAT, so should be your best players,l. Dont forget a DY can play LH/RH. 

Just my opinion.
Thanks Phil, really useful here - will take a look - need to drag one performance out of the team here next week and then can hopefully reset everything...

Don't forget about competition for places cos this week your LH RH TM and CR had no competition for their places in the starting eleven.
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Paul Hemmings wrote:
Ben@Plymouth wrote:
Phil@Watford wrote:
Ben@Plymouth wrote:
Rob@Barcelona wrote:
I blame Ashley Cole.
I even dropped him this week...
Considering your comments I'd look at a few things, is your players Stamina Superb? Is your team understanding, superb? Any player over 30 will struggle to play week in week out? Are all your players happy? Even 1 unhappy player for 1 week will drag team performance down. Played enough friendlies when changing players/tactics? 

If all that is good, then maybe look at transfers? LH/RH are probs most important players in CAT, so should be your best players,l. Dont forget a DY can play LH/RH. 

Just my opinion.
Thanks Phil, really useful here - will take a look - need to drag one performance out of the team here next week and then can hopefully reset everything...

Don't forget about competition for places cos this week your LH RH TM and CR had no competition for their places in the starting eleven.

Thanks for this also Paul - didn't even think about this - although how does competition for places work - I had Sigurdsson  (TM, LW, RW), Johnson (who can play RH), Welbeck (who can play RW and LW) and Bielik (CB) all in my squad of 25 - do these not count here as competition - or do they need to be similar PTCR?

Just trying to ensure I sort out my squad moving forward.

Thanks

Ben
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I think there needs to be a player in your reserve team competing in the same role. And over 22. Or something like that.
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Rob@Barcelona wrote:
I think there needs to be a player in your reserve team competing in the same role. And over 22. Or something like that.

Ah ok, they did all play but I presume not in the right position to cause competition? Paul, hopefully can clarify here
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I think competition counts as the player in the same position in the reserve team?

So if you played Sigurdsson as TM in the reserve side he would provide the competition for your first team TM but not your LW RW etc. Or if you played him at RH in the reserves he would provide the competition for that place irrespective what his positions are. I think.
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That's my understanding. 
!st team competition comes from corresponding position in reserves.
Didn't know about 'under 22' not giving enough competition? Not convinced that's the case.
My understanding is that the player in RES will give sufficient competition so long as their CR is within 2 points... so a CR97 will provide competition for a CR99.
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So that’s where I have an issue. If you have a 99 99 in your first team then you need a 97 in your reserve team. Very few (if any) under 30 and over 21 (if I’m correct), 97 CR players will be happy on your reserves.
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That's where my development academy comes in useful.   Allows 97cr (morale protected) up to the age of 24 instead of 21.

Mine houses Chilwell, Gomez, Arnold, Sancho, Neves etc
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Tom@Charlton wrote:
I think competition counts as the player in the same position in the reserve team?

So if you played Sigurdsson as TM in the reserve side he would provide the competition for your first team TM but not your LW RW etc. Or if you played him at RH in the reserves he would provide the competition for that place irrespective what his positions are. I think.
 This is my understanding also, I dont think it matters what position they can play aslong as they are playing the respective reserve position. However, the player rating also matters a 9999 wont be to concerned if theres a 9595. Not exactly competition.
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Rob@Barcelona wrote:
So that’s where I have an issue. If you have a 99 99 in your first team then you need a 97 in your reserve team. Very few (if any) under 30 and over 21 (if I’m correct), 97 CR players will be happy on your reserves.
Therein lies the 'problem'....spent half of this season trying to sort that out at Schalke...
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Andy@Schalke wrote:
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So that’s where I have an issue. If you have a 99 99 in your first team then you need a 97 in your reserve team. Very few (if any) under 30 and over 21 (if I’m correct), 97 CR players will be happy on your reserves.
Therein lies the 'problem'....spent half of this season trying to sort that out at Schalke...
I had a problem at the start and towards the end of the season, filling your team with to many 9999 to give competition is okay, if paying them 150k is worth it and it's not a guarantee that it will change from attitude 1 to attitude 2 if a STAR player. And like rob said even some 9797 are first 11 or need to be paid 150k to make happy to be a rotation problem. 


Like Andy said, player in development academy are protected.

Love the complexity!
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Phil@Watford wrote:
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So that’s where I have an issue. If you have a 99 99 in your first team then you need a 97 in your reserve team. Very few (if any) under 30 and over 21 (if I’m correct), 97 CR players will be happy on your reserves.
Therein lies the 'problem'....spent half of this season trying to sort that out at Schalke...
I had a problem at the start and towards the end of the season, filling your team with to many 9999 to give competition is okay, if paying them 150k is worth it and it's not a guarantee that it will change from attitude 1 to attitude 2 if a STAR player. And like rob said even some 9797 are first 11 or need to be paid 150k to make happy to be a rotation problem. 


Like Andy said, player in development academy are protected.

Love the complexity!

Absolutely. Makes you think about RL teams like Man City and Real Madrid - Full of stars with egos, but my impression is that so long as the team are winning (Man City), things are smoothish, but as soon as things start to go badly (Real Mad), the dressing room gets a bit fiery!

I suppose this is reflected in the game by morale taking a dive when you start to lose games...and morale increasing when you win trophies?
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I had this exact problem, things were fine until about 4 turns ago. Lost in the Cup then missed a cup week couldn't fit all players in and then they were unhappy. Hence why had to get rid and promote some youth players like Hudson-Odoi and Rice to provide competition.
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Speaking of which, anyone interested in a star player RB? Danilo 9999, he has to go unfortunately.

Plus I'm on the lookout for a decent backup RB 9797 or higher, under 24 if possible but not a game changer. 

Anyone help?
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Competition is supplied by having a player in the same position in the reserves.

Each first team player gets a performance bonus for the match and a training effect bonus for that week's training.

The PTCR of the reserve is not considered neither are his preferred positions.
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Transfers now...
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Paul Hemmings wrote:
Competition is supplied by having a player in the same position in the reserves.

Each first team player gets a performance bonus for the match and a training effect bonus for that week's training.

The PTCR of the reserve is not considered neither are his preferred positions.
This is a relief.
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Paul Hemmings wrote:
Competition is supplied by having a player in the same position in the reserves.

Each first team player gets a performance bonus for the match and a training effect bonus for that week's training.

The PTCR of the reserve is not considered neither are his preferred positions.
Thats changed then...
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Thats changed then...

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