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Ben@Plymouth
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Paul Hemmings wrote:
Ben@Plymouth wrote:


This seems to be a classic case Paul - http://www.zonalmarking.net/2011/08/29/barcelona-5-0-villarreal-tactics/



You can absolutely do this in the game as well as Villareal played without much width, with only Cani occasionally venturing out wide to make it 3 upfront. Villareal didnt play a target man either to exploit any space.

Would be 3 CB - AM - DL - DR - TM - ST - LW - RW playing as FLY?
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Chile play with LK CC RK AM but I havent tried that to see how effective it would be in CF as I'm not sure if the AM would cover one of the CB positions in the game, but I'll run a few tests to find out, it may be able to be implemented, but he def uses LK and RK and not CL CC and CR.
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Paul Hemmings wrote:
Chile play with LK CC RK AM but I havent tried that to see how effective it would be in CF as I'm not sure if the AM would cover one of the CB positions in the game, but I'll run a few tests to find out, it may be able to be implemented, but he def uses LK and RK and not CL CC and CR.

Agree in the case of Chile with Guardiola going one step further in playing with 3 CBs and no LK RK I think...?
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I shall start the printing and send out the email turns in the morning.
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Ben@Plymouth wrote:
Paul Hemmings wrote:
Chile play with LK CC RK AM but I havent tried that to see how effective it would be in CF as I'm not sure if the AM would cover one of the CB positions in the game, but I'll run a few tests to find out, it may be able to be implemented, but he def uses LK and RK and not CL CC and CR.

Agree in the case of Chile with Guardiola going one step further in playing with 3 CBs and no LK RK I think...?

In the game against Villareal Barca didnt use wingbacks, but then Villareal were not a good side and got hammered 5-0 you can do that in the game as well against the not so good sides. But atm you cant do it against the top sides.
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too complex for me! lol. I'
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Paul Hemmings wrote:
I shall start the printing and send out the email turns in the morning.

Great stuff Paul, thanks for another exciting and entertaining week!
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Another rubbish as usual week for Watford/Ancona then

4 games no goals!

Can't remember the last time Watford scored!
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Chelsea's up down season continues and cant seem to get Suarez scoring at all whereas Cska are doing superbly whixh is a bonus,Could be a tactical resuffle at chelsea i think
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Okay there was one standout result this week which came as a bit of a surprise and so I've checked through the match report and it seems that there was a problem with anybody who played 3 centrebacks this week. The problem was that the CL and CR were not tackling in the wider areas when the LK and RK were up field.

Something I changed during the week must have upset the AI.

So because it was such a big problem basically anybody who played 3 CBs was only playing with one in some areas, Ive decided to rerun all the games that were affected.

Huge apologies for this but I think its only fair to the guys who have suffered.

The teams affected are Birmingham, AC Milan, Roma and Parma and their opponents Plymouth, Inter, Chelsea and Man United. Both Parma and Roma drew their league games 0-0 so I wont rerun those games.

So I am going to rerun the league and cup games involving those teams.

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What time are you re-running those Paul? Obviously pressure back on in Italy for me now.
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Going to do the Brum vs Man U league game first...
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Rob@Inter wrote:
What time are you re-running those Paul? Obviously pressure back on in Italy for me now.

I'll do them now I think unless you have a suggestion ?
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Paul Hemmings wrote:
Rob@Inter wrote:
What time are you re-running those Paul? Obviously pressure back on in Italy for me now.

I'll do them now I think unless you have a suggestion ?



Give me a 3-0 and I won't mention a word to anyone?????Wink
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In the Premiership the new result is

Birmingham 1 Man United 0

so the new table looks like this...

Arsenal 15 +8
Fulham 14 +7
Birmingham 14 +3
Charlton 13 +2
Plymouth 12 +3
Newcastle 12 +0
Everton 11 -1
Chelsea 11 -1
Man City 10 +0
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In Serie A the new result is

AC Milan 0 Inter Milan 1

so no change there.
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In the Champions Cup the new result is

Plymouth 1 Birmingham 0

so Plymouth still go through.
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Paul Hemmings wrote:
In the Champions Cup the new result is

Plymouth 1 Birmingham 0

so Plymouth still go through.

A solid 1-0 win which saves on the amount of goal bonus I now have to pay!
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In the Europa Cup the new result is

AC Milan 0 Chelsea 0

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Ben@Plymouth wrote:
Paul Hemmings wrote:
In the Champions Cup the new result is

Plymouth 1 Birmingham 0

so Plymouth still go through.

A solid 1-0 win which saves on the amount of goal bonus I now have to pay!

thanks for the reminder I'd forgotten about that.
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Okay now I have to apologise to Rich cos he rage quit the forum yesterday, hopefully it was just a rage quit and not a permanent thing. emailing him now.
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Paul Hemmings wrote:
Ben@Plymouth wrote:
Paul Hemmings wrote:
In the Champions Cup the new result is

Plymouth 1 Birmingham 0

so Plymouth still go through.

A solid 1-0 win which saves on the amount of goal bonus I now have to pay!

thanks for the reminder I'd forgotten about that.

Looks like I may have saved Plymouth some money there then!
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I hate it when things go wrong cos somebody always gets pissed off. If only I was perfect.
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I hate it when things go wrong cos somebody always gets pissed off. If only I was perfect.

Just one of those things Paul, can't be helped! Am sure he will be back and firing again for next turn!

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Ben@Plymouth wrote:
Paul Hemmings wrote:
I hate it when things go wrong cos somebody always gets pissed off. If only I was perfect.

Just one of those things Paul, can't be helped! Am sure he will be back and firing again for next turn!


I truly hope so.
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Ive watched quite a bit of footage last night of the way Barca play at the back when they use 3 CBs and an AM and i'm pretty sure I can incorporate it into CF. They seem to use their wingbacks as the two wide centrebacks with the AM dropping back to play as a fourth defender, usually another CB, when needed, with the central CB almost becoming a sweeper. So i'm going to try and introduce that over the coming weeks, give it some testing and see how it goes in test games, and then if it works well I'll release it into the game.
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