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PostSubject: Season 31 Week 10 pre-processing...   Season 31 Week 10 pre-processing... Icon_minitimeSat 14 Nov - 10:24

I have some bad news for some of you and I thought I'd better let you know asap.

We had some memory corruption again this week between games in the cups and games in league. This caused a few confusing 'match comments' in a few of the games and also prevented some of the substitute processing being processed correctly. I've spoken to the effected managers and no games need to be rerun.

Thanks to Phil for spotting this one. 

The memory corruption occurs when the system tries to expand beyond 1026mb under windows10 and the only way to prevent this from happening again is to further restrict the number of players at each club. Currently this is set to 60 but I'm going to have to reduce it to 50 next week just to be safe. 

On the bright side the 50 cap will no longer include players out on loan and everybody can request up to 10 extra dealing slots next week for players you need to loan out as a result of this sudden change. I can also find clubs that need help if you dont have clubs to send your extra players to.

Affected clubs are :-

NEWCASTLE/52
WATFORD/53
CHARLTON/50
LAZIO/55
FLUMINENSE/50
BOTAFOGO/54
BARCELONA/54
NACIONAL/54
SEVILLA/54
ATLETICO/51
NANTES/51
GENK/55
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PostSubject: Re: Season 31 Week 10 pre-processing...   Season 31 Week 10 pre-processing... Icon_minitimeSat 14 Nov - 10:26

Again, I'm very sorry to have restrict your future plans like this but I really want to avoid rerunning games as much as possible, hopefully you all understand.

Feel free to contact me here or in private if you need to.
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PostSubject: Re: Season 31 Week 10 pre-processing...   Season 31 Week 10 pre-processing... Icon_minitimeSat 14 Nov - 10:29

I'm hoping, as always, that 50 will be the new permanent upper limit for squad sizes but only time will tell. We did pretty well with the value set at 60 and it was because of the extra memory needed for the cups this week that this corruption reappeared.
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PostSubject: Re: Season 31 Week 10 pre-processing...   Season 31 Week 10 pre-processing... Icon_minitimeSat 14 Nov - 11:10

Thanks for looking into this for everyone. 

Apricate your swift response and while the squad cap not ideal. If it helps preserve the integrity of the game I'm happy to abide Smile 

I'm sure i can reduce my squads to 200 players... Just ha.
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PostSubject: Re: Season 31 Week 10 pre-processing...   Season 31 Week 10 pre-processing... Icon_minitimeSat 14 Nov - 12:38

Thanks Paul, I am sure minimise things at Atletico - is it below 50 or 50 on the dot btw?
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PostSubject: Re: Season 31 Week 10 pre-processing...   Season 31 Week 10 pre-processing... Icon_minitimeSat 14 Nov - 12:42

Ben@Plymouth wrote:
Thanks Paul, I am sure minimise things at Atletico - is it below 50 or 50 on the dot btw?

50 MAX.
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Thanks Paul!
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PostSubject: Re: Season 31 Week 10 pre-processing...   Season 31 Week 10 pre-processing... Icon_minitimeSat 14 Nov - 14:30

50 max is going to be tough!

Lge/cup, res, yth and sch = 44 players playing. Then you need 7 subs for lge/cup.

Going to be cut to the bare bones - which is actually an interesting problem.

Couple of questions:

1 - Is the Max still 60 including loan outs, or can we loan out more than 10, as long as the (non-loan) squad size is 50 max?

2 - Could you just remind us what happens if we go over the 50 max. 
Say, I'm on 50, and I try to NEW a player. Will the NEW go ahead (giving me 51) and I cannot do any more to increase my squad until the size is back down to 50? Or will the NEW not happen because squad size is already 50?

Andy.
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PostSubject: Re: Season 31 Week 10 pre-processing...   Season 31 Week 10 pre-processing... Icon_minitimeSat 14 Nov - 19:16

Andy@Schalke wrote:
50 max is going to be tough!

Lge/cup, res, yth and sch = 44 players playing. Then you need 7 subs for lge/cup.

Going to be cut to the bare bones - which is actually an interesting problem.

Couple of questions:

1 - Is the Max still 60 including loan outs, or can we loan out more than 10, as long as the (non-loan) squad size is 50 max?

2 - Could you just remind us what happens if we go over the 50 max. 
Say, I'm on 50, and I try to NEW a player. Will the NEW go ahead (giving me 51) and I cannot do any more to increase my squad until the size is back down to 50? Or will the NEW not happen because squad size is already 50?

Andy.

It's a good idea generally for the subs to play in one of your other teams (res/you/scb) as well as be on the bench, meaning you only need 44 players giving you 6 extras.

you can loan out any number of players but no team can have more than 50 players to choose from on any given week. 50 is the max not 51 so if you try to new somebody and you already have 50 then it wont go through.

I could build a system that automatically loans out anybody you try to sign if you already have 50 players at the signing club, wouldnt be too difficult.
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PostSubject: Re: Season 31 Week 10 pre-processing...   Season 31 Week 10 pre-processing... Icon_minitimeSat 14 Nov - 19:29

Paul Hemmings wrote:
It's a good idea generally for the subs to play in one of your other teams (res/you/scb) as well as be on the bench, meaning you only need 44 players giving you 6 extras.

you can loan out any number of players but no team can have more than 50 players to choose from on any given week. 50 is the max not 51 so if you try to new somebody and you already have 50 then it wont go through.

I could build a system that automatically loans out anybody you try to sign if you already have 50 players at the signing club, wouldnt be too difficult.

Personally, I think it should be on us to manage the squad sizes. So we should run at a number below 50 if we want to make signings (given that we can have more than 50 in total with those on loan). So I don't think this is needed. 

While I need to lower Barca and Nacional on an overall basis this isn't a huge change.
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PostSubject: Re: Season 31 Week 10 pre-processing...   Season 31 Week 10 pre-processing... Icon_minitimeSat 14 Nov - 20:26

Rob@Barcelona wrote:
Paul Hemmings wrote:
It's a good idea generally for the subs to play in one of your other teams (res/you/scb) as well as be on the bench, meaning you only need 44 players giving you 6 extras.

you can loan out any number of players but no team can have more than 50 players to choose from on any given week. 50 is the max not 51 so if you try to new somebody and you already have 50 then it wont go through.

I could build a system that automatically loans out anybody you try to sign if you already have 50 players at the signing club, wouldnt be too difficult.

Personally, I think it should be on us to manage the squad sizes. So we should run at a number below 50 if we want to make signings (given that we can have more than 50 in total with those on loan). So I don't think this is needed. 

While I need to lower Barca and Nacional on an overall basis this isn't a huge change.
I concur with Rob, I believe we should manage our squads. 50 Squad cap with a Maximum of 10 on Loan? That way we are the same as we are now ? I appreciate this turn might be hectic..... but most squads arnt too far off... (mainly mine) ha
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PostSubject: Re: Season 31 Week 10 pre-processing...   Season 31 Week 10 pre-processing... Icon_minitimeSat 14 Nov - 22:49

Agree with both of these - 50 with 10 on loan seems a good suggestion, with up to us to manage things rather than an automatic loan system
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PostSubject: Re: Season 31 Week 10 pre-processing...   Season 31 Week 10 pre-processing... Icon_minitimeSun 15 Nov - 13:04

Ben@Plymouth wrote:
Agree with both of these - 50 with 10 on loan seems a good suggestion, with up to us to manage things rather than an automatic loan system
Yes, I agree with what has been said.
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PostSubject: Re: Season 31 Week 10 pre-processing...   Season 31 Week 10 pre-processing... Icon_minitimeSun 15 Nov - 13:57

Paul Hemmings wrote:
Andy@Schalke wrote:
50 max is going to be tough!

Lge/cup, res, yth and sch = 44 players playing. Then you need 7 subs for lge/cup.

Going to be cut to the bare bones - which is actually an interesting problem.

Couple of questions:

1 - Is the Max still 60 including loan outs, or can we loan out more than 10, as long as the (non-loan) squad size is 50 max?

2 - Could you just remind us what happens if we go over the 50 max. 
Say, I'm on 50, and I try to NEW a player. Will the NEW go ahead (giving me 51) and I cannot do any more to increase my squad until the size is back down to 50? Or will the NEW not happen because squad size is already 50?

Andy.

It's a good idea generally for the subs to play in one of your other teams (res/you/scb) as well as be on the bench, meaning you only need 44 players giving you 6 extras.

you can loan out any number of players but no team can have more than 50 players to choose from on any given week. 50 is the max not 51 so if you try to new somebody and you already have 50 then it wont go through.

I could build a system that automatically loans out anybody you try to sign if you already have 50 players at the signing club, wouldnt be too difficult.

I'd quite like the auto loan system. We (well 'I' at least) will be right on the edge of 50 players all the time, so if I see a player to NEW or BID on at the last minute, I'd like to be able to go for him without worrying about 50 or 51 players.

Could you give us a definitive number of loan players allowed too please?

Also, be useful if you could indicate an official 'total' of (non-loaned out) players on the main squad - I know we can count them up ourselves but........I guess I'm lazy!

Andy.
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Andy@Schalke wrote:
Paul Hemmings wrote:
Andy@Schalke wrote:
50 max is going to be tough!

Lge/cup, res, yth and sch = 44 players playing. Then you need 7 subs for lge/cup.

Going to be cut to the bare bones - which is actually an interesting problem.

Couple of questions:

1 - Is the Max still 60 including loan outs, or can we loan out more than 10, as long as the (non-loan) squad size is 50 max?

2 - Could you just remind us what happens if we go over the 50 max. 
Say, I'm on 50, and I try to NEW a player. Will the NEW go ahead (giving me 51) and I cannot do any more to increase my squad until the size is back down to 50? Or will the NEW not happen because squad size is already 50?

Andy.

It's a good idea generally for the subs to play in one of your other teams (res/you/scb) as well as be on the bench, meaning you only need 44 players giving you 6 extras.

you can loan out any number of players but no team can have more than 50 players to choose from on any given week. 50 is the max not 51 so if you try to new somebody and you already have 50 then it wont go through.

I could build a system that automatically loans out anybody you try to sign if you already have 50 players at the signing club, wouldnt be too difficult.

I'd quite like the auto loan system. We (well 'I' at least) will be right on the edge of 50 players all the time, so if I see a player to NEW or BID on at the last minute, I'd like to be able to go for him without worrying about 50 or 51 players.

Could you give us a definitive number of loan players allowed too please?

Also, be useful if you could indicate an official 'total' of (non-loaned out) players on the main squad - I know we can count them up ourselves but........I guess I'm lazy!

Andy.

CurrentPlayers=999 at the foot of your Playing Staff report already shows how many players are in the club ( this figure doesn't include loanouts ).
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ha, I really should pay more attention!
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PostSubject: Re: Season 31 Week 10 pre-processing...   Season 31 Week 10 pre-processing... Icon_minitimeMon 16 Nov - 8:58

Each club is currently allowed to have a maximum of 10 players out on loan, but because this is a sudden change I have increased that figure to 20 but only until the end of season 31, so on week 1 of season 32 that maximum loanout figure will return to 10.
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