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Also, fascinated to know, without mentioning figures, which teams are the richest in the game at the minute?
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Tom@Charlton wrote:
Also, fascinated to know, without mentioning figures, which teams are the richest in the game at the minute?
Well I currently have about 2 million in bank and playing last 4 games away doesn’t help in terms of revenue... any tips on taking in cash much appreciated lol
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gary@chelsea wrote:
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Also, fascinated to know, without mentioning figures, which teams are the richest in the game at the minute?
Well I currently have about 2 million in bank and playing last 4 games away doesn’t help in terms of revenue... any tips on taking in cash much appreciated lol
Have you done a Takeover yet Gary? Concerts - Can do 3 a season depending on Stadium Capacity can make 2-4million. 
Are you selling plenty of shirts each week? You can sell as many shirts as Fans e.g 240,000 fans - 10,000 shirts a week? Something to consider in the off season, Season Tickets? 

You get 100,000 per friendly played. I play friendlies even when skills are trained as 900,000 is a lot per week. Get a International Team as friendlies played for International generate 200,000. 

And lastly..... you'll gain some money at EOS for league position and Obviously when choosing buildings, look for ones that generate higher income such as Superstores and Hotel? 

Hope that helps!
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Don’t forget stadium sponsor too, if you haven’t already, before week 22 when you can do it again.
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Well done to all the cup finalists!
Great season from bayern this time, and watford winning the cl 2 in a row. Well done both!
I think Schalke still hold the record for most successive Wins at 3 in a row? 

Just curious Paul, which team has won the Champions Cup the most?

5 SPURS STEVE GAMMON
6 OLDHAM PAUL PHILLIPS
7 ACMILAN ROBERT SWABY
8 MANCITY GEOFF FIELDS
9 NEWCASTLE MARK SANDERSON
10 COVENTRY PAUL GOOD
11 LEEDS LEE HARRISON
12 PLYMOUTH DAN FURNEAUX
13 DRAGOVOL TONY ZILIC
14 MIDDSBORO DAVE COWE
15 MIDDSBORO DAVE COWE
16 BAYERN SCOTT UPTON
17 REAL MADRID IAIN OLIVER
18 AC MILAN GARY WARD
19 BARCELONA MATTHEW HUDSON
20 AC MILAN COLIN COOMBES
21 NEWCASTLE MARK SANDERSON
22 SCHALKE JAMIE GARDNER
23 ARSENAL PHIL GREEN
24 BARCELONA MATTHEW HUDSON
25 MAN CITY GEOFF FIELDS
26 INTER MILAN ROBERT WILSON
27 SCHALKE ANDY LE BUTT
28 SCHALKE ANDY LE BUTT
29 WATFORD PHIL GREEN
30 WATFORD PHIL GREEN

Official records started in season five, before that we only had English teams. Season 1 was won by Man City Geoff Fields, season 2 by Man United, season 3 was Arsenal, and season 4 I think was Soton Matt Backley, but that's all from memory as we had no Trophy file before season 5.
What prestigious company too be in, some truly great managers on that list.
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Cheers lads all helpful info
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Tom@Charlton wrote:
Also, fascinated to know, without mentioning figures, which teams are the richest in the game at the minute?

Going back to this, by richest, I would be fascinated to know how many teams have the full capacity of 120,000, who has the most income from buildings as well as the most disposable income?  Just to see what where we stand against the financial powerhouses in the game.
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Also, fascinated to know, without mentioning figures, which teams are the richest in the game at the minute?

Going back to this, by richest, I would be fascinated to know how many teams have the full capacity of 120,000, who has the most income from buildings as well as the most disposable income?  Just to see what where we stand against the financial powerhouses in the game.
Not sure too many Teams will be open to discuss there finances as obviously could lead to unfair negotiations? 

However I will share some info from my Teams. 

Watford 
Building income vs outgoing 
2,540,000 vs 1,520,000 (think only got 3 building not built) 
Stadium 120,000
Estimated Fans - 647,457

Genk 
Building income vs outgoing 
490,000 - 982,000 - alot of building work to be done, but invested in stadium this season. 
Stadium 90,000 
Estimated Fans - 223,466

Botafogo 
Building income vs outgoing 
685,000 vs 1,035,000
Stadium 45,000 
Estimated fans - 168,883
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Fascinating mate, thanks.  Actually meant for Paul just to give figures and not say which club for the above reason but there aren't much negotiations going on anyway!!


Did all your buildings get reset when you took over or were there some remaining from the previous regime?  If they did, you've done amazingly well to build so many at Watford!
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Fascinating mate, thanks.  Actually meant for Paul just to give figures and not say which club for the above reason but there aren't much negotiations going on anyway!!


Did all your buildings get reset when you took over or were there some remaining from the previous regime?  If they did, you've done amazingly well to build so many at Watford!
I had to rebuild. 

Tip aswell. You dont need to equip a Youth/SBA/Dev to enrol players into them. Just skills dont train as fast...
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People can discuss their own finances if they want to I'll not be doing that but stadiums we can discuss. There are ten full capacity stadiums in game one at the moment, Plymouth, Watford, Charlton, InterMilan, Flamengo, Fluminense, Bayern, Lisbon, Schalke, Nantes and Man City. The first one completed was Man City and the second was Plymouth.

I will say one thing about finances which is okay I guess, the biggest profit made this week from buildings was £1,674,550 the second biggest was £1,522,500 and the third biggest was £1,226,500. The fourth was £1,025,000. Only four people made over a millions, five people got close to half a million and overall only 32 teams made a profit from buildings this week, mostly less than £100,000 and everybody else made a loss. Biggest loss was around £400,000.


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Paul Hemmings wrote:
People can discuss their own finances if they want to I'll not be doing that but stadiums we can discuss. There are ten full capacity stadiums in game one at the moment, Plymouth, Watford, Charlton, InterMilan, Flamengo, Fluminense, Bayern, Lisbon, Schalke, Nantes and Man City. The first one completed was Man City and the second was Plymouth.

Sorry mate, didn’t mean to cause offence. I was just wondering, without mentioning individual club names what the biggest balance is, most buildings etc.  Irrelevant but was just wondering. Sorry.
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Tom@Charlton wrote:
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People can discuss their own finances if they want to I'll not be doing that but stadiums we can discuss. There are ten full capacity stadiums in game one at the moment, Plymouth, Watford, Charlton, InterMilan, Flamengo, Fluminense, Bayern, Lisbon, Schalke, Nantes and Man City. The first one completed was Man City and the second was Plymouth.

Sorry mate, didn’t mean to cause offence. I was just wondering, without mentioning individual club names what the biggest balance is, most buildings etc.  Irrelevant but was just wondering. Sorry.

No offence taken Tom  cheers
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Paul Hemmings wrote:
People can discuss their own finances if they want to I'll not be doing that but stadiums we can discuss. There are ten full capacity stadiums in game one at the moment, Plymouth, Watford, Charlton, InterMilan, Flamengo, Fluminense, Bayern, Lisbon, Schalke, Nantes and Man City. The first one completed was Man City and the second was Plymouth.

I will say one thing about finances which is okay I guess, the biggest profit made this week from buildings was £1,674,550 the second biggest was £1,522,500 and the third biggest was £1,226,500. The fourth was £1,025,000. Only four people made over a millions, five people got close to half a million and overall only 32 teams made a profit from buildings this week, mostly less than £100,000 and everybody else made a loss. Biggest loss was around £400,000.

Thanks pal, that’s what I was talking about. Bit of a geek but find this kind of thing fascinating to compare to my figures.
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I will say one thing about finances which is okay I guess, the biggest profit made this week from buildings was £1,674,550 the second biggest was £1,522,500 and the third biggest was £1,226,500. The fourth was £1,025,000. Only four people made over a millions, five people got close to half a million and overall only 32 teams made a profit from buildings this week, mostly less than £100,000 and everybody else made a loss. Biggest loss was around £400,000.
Looks like the builders are going to be busy in the off season.... 

Must... resist.... buying.... new... Players.... 



Oh a shiny new player! lol!
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Paul Hemmings wrote:
I will say one thing about finances which is okay I guess, the biggest profit made this week from buildings was £1,674,550 the second biggest was £1,522,500 and the third biggest was £1,226,500. The fourth was £1,025,000. Only four people made over a millions, five people got close to half a million and overall only 32 teams made a profit from buildings this week, mostly less than £100,000 and everybody else made a loss. Biggest loss was around £400,000.

Paul, is you measurement here building profits minus building running costs?
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Rob@Barcelona wrote:
Paul Hemmings wrote:
I will say one thing about finances which is okay I guess, the biggest profit made this week from buildings was £1,674,550 the second biggest was £1,522,500 and the third biggest was £1,226,500. The fourth was £1,025,000. Only four people made over a millions, five people got close to half a million and overall only 32 teams made a profit from buildings this week, mostly less than £100,000 and everybody else made a loss. Biggest loss was around £400,000.

Paul, is you measurement here building profits minus building running costs?

Yes.
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My buildings make about 2m and cost about 1.5m but i need to topup the equipment of quite a few - doubt that'll get me to 1m profit though! I've just recently finished upgrading all to Indestruct though...
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BUILDINGS AVAILABLE
BUILDING TYPE              PRICE   EQUIP100%   ESTPROFIT NOTES
5-a-side Pitch           500,000      50,000      -1,000 +rtg+vis           
Advertising Hoarding     250,000           0      50,000                    
Amusemant Arcade         500,000     200,000      20,000                    
Amusement Park        25,000,000  15,000,000     250,000                    
Away Changing Room       500,000      50,000      -5,000 +atten             
Bingo Hall               500,000      50,000       5,000                    
Book Shop                500,000     100,000      10,000                    
Bookmakers               500,000      50,000       5,000 some luck involved 
Boot Room                500,000      50,000      -1,000 +morale            
Burger Bar               500,000     100,000      10,000                    
Car Park                 250,000   1,000,000      50,000 +atten             
Car Park Extension     5,000,000   5,000,000      50,000 +atten             
Car Park Space             1,000           0           0                    
Car Park Underground  25,000,000   5,000,000      50,000 +atten             
Casino                 1,000,000     500,000      25,000                    
Cinema                   500,000     500,000      25,000                    
Club Museum            1,000,000     200,000     -20,000 +fans              
Club Shop              1,000,000     200,000      20,000 +shirtsales        
Club Shop Subsidiary   1,000,000     100,000      10,000 +shirtsales        
Club Shop Superstore   5,000,000   2,000,000     200,000 +shirtsales        
Creche                   250,000      50,000      -5,000 +atten             
Development Academy    5,000,000  25,000,000    -250,000 +u24 morale        
Fashion Shop             500,000     150,000      15,000                    
Fish & Chip Shop         500,000     150,000      15,000                    
Footbonaut Arena       5,000,000   1,000,000     -15,000 +co +sp +lp        
Futsal Arena           5,000,000   1,000,000     -15,000 +u22 control       
Golf Course           10,000,000  25,000,000     250,000 +team bonding      
Grand Hotel            5,000,000  10,000,000     250,000                    
Gymnasium              5,000,000   4,000,000    -100,000 +strength          
Hair Salon               500,000     150,000      15,000                    
Hall Of Fame             500,000      50,000       5,000 +fans              
Highlights Screen      1,000,000      50,000     -15,000 +atten             
Home Changing Room     1,000,000      50,000      -5,000 +morale home side  
Hot Air Blimp            500,000     100,000       5,000                    
Hotel                  1,000,000   1,000,000      50,000                    
Ice Cream Cafe           500,000     150,000      15,000                    
Internet Cafe            500,000     150,000      15,000 +fans              
Laserquest Hall          500,000      50,000       5,000                    
Laundry Room             500,000     500,000      -5,000 +morale            
Leisure Centre         5,000,000  15,000,000     250,000                    
Luxury Coach           1,000,000     500,000     -50,000 stamina recovery*2 
Luxury Lear Jet        1,000,000   6,000,000    -300,000 stamina recovery*4 
Med Research Centre    5,000,000  50,000,000    -500,000 -inj%              
Medical Centre         5,000,000  40,000,000    -150,000 +inj recovery      
Nightclub                500,000      50,000       5,000                    
Pitch Covers             250,000      50,000      -1,000 +pitch-inj%        
Pitch Sprinklers         250,000      50,000      -1,000 +pitch-inj%        
Radio Station          1,000,000   1,000,000      50,000 +fans              
Ref Changing Room      1,000,000      50,000      -5,000 +homer ref%        
Refreshment Kiosk        250,000     100,000      10,000                    
Restaurant               500,000      50,000       5,000                    
Schoolboy Academy      5,000,000  25,000,000    -200,000 +u20 skill/morale  
Shopping Centre       25,000,000  15,000,000     250,000                    
Snow Plough              250,000      50,000      -1,000 +pitch-snow%       
Sports Bar             2,000,000     400,000      40,000 +fans              
Stadium Box Seat           5,000           0           0                    
Stadium Family Seat        2,500           0           0                    
Stadium Invalid Seat       2,500           0           0                    
Stadium Normal Seat        2,500           0           0                    
Stadium Roof           5,000,000  10,000,000     -15,000 +pitch+atten-extend
Supporters Club        1,000,000      50,000       5,000 +fans              
Tapas Restaurant         500,000      50,000       5,000                    
Television Station     5,000,000   5,000,000     100,000 +fans+payperview   
Themed Bar             1,000,000     200,000      20,000 +fans              
Training Centre        5,000,000  25,000,000    -200,000 +3%trainingeff-inj%
Training Pitch         1,000,000   2,500,000     -50,000 +2%trainingeff     
Training Pitch Roof    5,000,000  10,000,000     -15,000 +pitch-snow%       
Trophy Room              250,000      50,000      -5,000 +fans              
Undersoil Heating      2,000,000   1,000,000     -50,000 +pitch-inj%        
Video Screen             250,000      50,000      -5,000 +fans              
Video Shop               500,000     150,000      15,000                    
Youth Academy          5,000,000  25,000,000    -150,000 +u22 skill/morale
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My buildings make about 2m and cost about 1.5m but i need to topup the equipment of quite a few - doubt that'll get me to 1m profit though! I've just recently finished upgrading all to Indestruct though...
All my buildings are Indestruct, to avoid the decay each season and having Re-equip!

Above is a Building's List, might help some manager's Map out which buildings to priotise?
As previously stated, i look for buildings that give bonuses (+atten/shirtsales/+fans).
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Interesting, which ones don’t you have Phil?
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Amusement Park        25,000,000  15,000,000     250,000                    
Med Research Centre    5,000,000  50,000,000    -500,000 -inj%              
Shopping Centre       25,000,000  15,000,000     250,000                     
Training Pitch Roof    5,000,000  10,000,000     -15,000 +pitch-snow%        


Are all the buildings i don't currently have, But if i built all i'd only be 15,000 up per week. But i could build multiple of other buildings such as Refreshment Kiosk and Subsidiary to increase profit per week.

Club Shop Subsidiary   1,000,000     100,000      10,000 +shirtsales        
Refreshment Kiosk        250,000     100,000      10,000                    

Based on the Cost per building and equipment for same profit back Refreshment Kiosks would be the more economical building to build... Not sure what the Cap for each is. I know Supporters Clubs is 20.
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I was under the impression refreshment kiosk is 4 max, one for each stand of the ground? 

Not sure about the others? 

Paul, are you able (and willing) to share which buildings can be in multiples and how many of each you can build? 

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Email turns all sent out. Any issues then please let me know as my data entry is a bit below the normal standard at the moment due to having to work from electronic sheets.
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Tom@Charlton wrote:
I was under the impression refreshment kiosk is 4 max, one for each stand of the ground? 

Not sure about the others? 

Paul, are you able (and willing) to share which buildings can be in multiples and how many of each you can build? 

Thanks

themed bar 20
sports bar 20
club shop subsidary 20
internet cafe 20
refreshment kiosk 4
supporters clubs 20
video screens 20
all others 1

MAXIMUM income from all your buildings could be £3,915,000 per week
running costs from non-profit buildings cost a maximum of £2,062,500
so the choices are yours but generally the buildings should be paying for themselves and making you a small profit or a bigger profit, just depends on whether you want buildings for the money or the bonuses or a combo of both. Most of you go for a combo which is very sensible.

The upfront cost of building and equipping only profit making buildings is £232,050,000 at Superquick prices so it would take about 3 seasons to recoup your outlay but you are getting all the bonuses in the meantime. Be clever and pick and choose your buildings carefully.


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