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Ben@Plymouth World Star - 99/99
Posts : 3311 Join date : 2010-09-22
| Subject: Re: Week 11 processing Wed 4 Apr - 13:14 | |
| - Paul Hemmings wrote:
- MIX works quite well with strikers and dynamos both scoring their share of goals instead of Rooney grabbing them all.
Do you mean MIX as a tactic or MIX on Rooney? |
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Paul Hemmings Games Master
Posts : 39332 Reputation : 3180 Join date : 2009-12-02 Location : Cornwall
| Subject: Re: Week 11 processing Wed 4 Apr - 13:23 | |
| - Ben@Plymouth wrote:
- Paul Hemmings wrote:
- MIX works quite well with strikers and dynamos both scoring their share of goals instead of Rooney grabbing them all.
Do you mean MIX as a tactic or MIX on Rooney? the command MIX |
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Paul Hemmings Games Master
Posts : 39332 Reputation : 3180 Join date : 2009-12-02 Location : Cornwall
| Subject: Re: Week 11 processing Wed 4 Apr - 13:25 | |
| - Rob@Inter wrote:
- Paul,
Echo Ben's comments on the turn around. Thanks.
Would love to know why Inter clicked this week. Was it just Hernanes coming in? Also no goals from the forwards again - how did they play?
Also will the player reviews from last turn kick in this turn?
Rob We'll look at Inter next although it'll be more complex as its a 4 man game rather than a 1 man game tactic. |
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Ben@Plymouth World Star - 99/99
Posts : 3311 Reputation : 1541 Join date : 2010-09-22 Age : 39
| Subject: Re: Week 11 processing Wed 4 Apr - 13:54 | |
| - Paul Hemmings wrote:
- Ben@Plymouth wrote:
- Paul Hemmings wrote:
- MIX works quite well with strikers and dynamos both scoring their share of goals instead of Rooney grabbing them all.
Do you mean MIX as a tactic or MIX on Rooney? the command MIX Thanks Paul, might have a go with this next week then (providing it is tested and operational)? |
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Jamie@Watford International 94/94
Posts : 328 Reputation : 43 Join date : 2009-11-30 Location : Nottingham
| Subject: Re: Week 11 processing Wed 4 Apr - 13:58 | |
| Would it be possible to get some feedback on how the BIG command worked for ST?
I used it on gyan for Watford and quagliarella for Ancona
Cheers |
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Paul Hemmings Games Master
Posts : 39332 Reputation : 3180 Join date : 2009-12-02 Location : Cornwall
| Subject: Re: Week 11 processing Wed 4 Apr - 14:02 | |
| Inter Milan GK LBCLCRRB LHPMP2RH STCF SLO4/SLO6
midfield is crucial here and Inter have
PM Pirlo 32 AMPM co9 sp9 lp8 ae9 kn9 vi8
P2 Hernanes 26 AMPM co7 sp8 lp7 ae7 kn9 vi6
LH Di Maria 24 DYLH qu9 ae9 cg9 dr8 tr8
RH Ribery 29 DYLHRH qu7 ae8 cg7 dr8 tr8 |
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Paul Hemmings Games Master
Posts : 39332 Reputation : 3180 Join date : 2009-12-02 Location : Cornwall
| Subject: Re: Week 11 processing Wed 4 Apr - 14:19 | |
| attack 1 Pepe - Hernanes - probes left - Pirlo - avoids Salvio - Di Maria - dribble - dribble - avoids Bocchetti - cuts in - shoot missed
attack 2 Pepe - Hernanes - avoids Gomez - probes left - Pirlo - Di Maria - dribble - dribble - avoids Bocchetti - cuts in - shoot goal
attack 3 freekick - Hernanes - Ribery - dribble - dribble - avoids Santos - crosslow (gusting wind) - Fabio - avoids Lukovic - shoot goal
attack 4 Pirlo - probes right - Hernanes - Ribery - dribble - dribble - avoids Santos - crosslow ( gusting wind ) - Hernanes - avoids Lukovic - shoot goal
attack 5 Pirlo - probes right - Hernanes - Ribery - dribble - dribble - avoids Santos - crosslow ( gusting wind ) - Cavani - avoids Lukovic - shoot defelcted corner
61 minutes vargas/rossi replace CFfabio/SThiguain
attack 6 Vargas - Pirlo - probes right - Hernanes - tackled by Blasi
attack 7 Hernanes - probes left - Pirlo - Di Maria - fouled
attack 8 Di Maria picks up a bad pass - dribble - cuts in - shoot saved
attack 9 Chiellini - Hernanes - obstructed
Pastore on 73 minutes for Hernanes
attack 10 freekick - Rossi - Pastore - dribble - probes left - Pirlo - tackled by Blasi
attack 11 Pepe - Pastore - dribble - dribble - beaten by Fernandes
attack 12 Maicon - Pastore - dribble - probes left - Pirlo - Di Maria - avoids Feola - dribble - fouled by Bocchetti
this is a totally different game to the FAS tactics employed by Plymouth and requires four of Inter's players to be spot on. |
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Paul Hemmings Games Master
Posts : 39332 Reputation : 3180 Join date : 2009-12-02 Location : Cornwall
| Subject: Re: Week 11 processing Wed 4 Apr - 14:22 | |
| Di Maria likes to cut inside and have a shot so he doesnt really play the SLO tactic very well, not once did he try to pass it back inside or cross it, however Ribery did try to cross it cos he had the beating of the fullback and that brought the CFST into play more.
If you want to counteract Di Maria's willingnes to cutinside and shoot you need to use the CRO or CRB command on him, this will tell him to cross rather than try to shoot. It will certainly create more chances for the 2 forwards. |
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Paul Hemmings Games Master
Posts : 39332 Reputation : 3180 Join date : 2009-12-02 Location : Cornwall
| Subject: Re: Week 11 processing Wed 4 Apr - 14:24 | |
| I'll rerun the game with CRO on Di Maria to see how that works out |
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Rob@Barcelona World Star - 99/99
Posts : 3366 Reputation : 1311 Join date : 2009-11-29 Age : 52 Location : London
| Subject: Re: Week 11 processing Wed 4 Apr - 14:25 | |
| 2 things. Looks like Cavani and Higuain were rarely involved and also Hernanes seems important as it was less incisive after he went off. |
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Rob@Barcelona World Star - 99/99
Posts : 3366 Reputation : 1311 Join date : 2009-11-29 Age : 52 Location : London
| Subject: Re: Week 11 processing Wed 4 Apr - 14:26 | |
| Makes sense to get him to cross. |
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Rob@Barcelona World Star - 99/99
Posts : 3366 Reputation : 1311 Join date : 2009-11-29 Age : 52 Location : London
| Subject: Re: Week 11 processing Wed 4 Apr - 14:45 | |
| Paul - How did Vargas come on at CF? Cavani was playing that role. I thought Vargas was coming on as LB. |
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Paul Hemmings Games Master
Posts : 39332 Reputation : 3180 Join date : 2009-12-02 Location : Cornwall
| Subject: Re: Week 11 processing Wed 4 Apr - 15:18 | |
| attack 1 Pirlo - probes right - Hernanes - Ribery - dribble - dribble - avoids Santos - crosshigh - Pirlo - luckily outjumps Mexes - head goal
the first thing i notice straight away is that you have no less than 7 players trying to get into the box for this cross, so your CFST have reduced chances of being on the end, esp as they are more likley to be marked by the CLCR.
attack 2 LLoris - Pepe - Pirlo - avoids Pandev - Hernanes - Ribery - dribble - dribble - fouled by Santos - freekick to Ribery - crosshigh - goes behind for a goalkick
but again lots of players in the box
attack 3 Chiellini - Hernanes - movesup - avoids Gomez - Probes left - Pirlo - Di Maria - dribble - dribble - avoids Bocchetti - crosshigh - Higuain - outjumps Mexes - head goal
but again in the box were Fabio Pirlo Higuain Cavani Ribery and Hernanes
this game ended 2-0 goals by Pirlo and Higuain and it was pretty much more of the same all the way through. |
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Paul Hemmings Games Master
Posts : 39332 Reputation : 3180 Join date : 2009-12-02 Location : Cornwall
| Subject: Re: Week 11 processing Wed 4 Apr - 15:20 | |
| I'll rerun the game with
Pirlo SIM Hernanes SIM Fabio DEF and Maicon DEF that way the box wont be so crowded when the ball comes in, see how that works... |
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Paul Hemmings Games Master
Posts : 39332 Reputation : 3180 Join date : 2009-12-02 Location : Cornwall
| Subject: Re: Week 11 processing Wed 4 Apr - 15:24 | |
| Inter 2 Lazio 0 Ribery Cavani
Inter 1 Lazio 0 Cavani
Inter 4 Lazio 0 Cavani Pirlo Ribery2
Inter 2 Lazio 0 Higuain2
Inter 3 Lazio 0 Cavani2 Higuain
Inter 2 Lazio 0 Higuain2 |
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Paul Hemmings Games Master
Posts : 39332 Reputation : 3180 Join date : 2009-12-02 Location : Cornwall
| Subject: Re: Week 11 processing Wed 4 Apr - 15:25 | |
| if you completely control what your players are doing then you can get your CFST involved more in the goalscoring, but if you leave it to the players, cos they are all so good they will grab chances for themselves.
that seems to be the reason in your case |
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Paul Hemmings Games Master
Posts : 39332 Reputation : 3180 Join date : 2009-12-02 Location : Cornwall
| Subject: Re: Week 11 processing Wed 4 Apr - 15:27 | |
| - Rob@Inter wrote:
- Paul - How did Vargas come on at CF? Cavani was playing that role. I thought Vargas was coming on as LB.
my typo CF should read LB apologies |
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Paul Hemmings Games Master
Posts : 39332 Reputation : 3180 Join date : 2009-12-02 Location : Cornwall
| Subject: Re: Week 11 processing Wed 4 Apr - 15:28 | |
| - Will@Fulham wrote:
- Big thanks Paul for the sharp turnaround, appreciated by all
I posted this on week 10 after rich had asked about why his winghalves were never getting the ball in his winghalves tactic would be grateful for some feedback when time permits
echo the above a little.
cant help but think that although long term this is a move that needed to happen for the game (the bigger pitch) it has confused the roles of some players a little. u I had my ST bent Getting way too involved (something i know u are looking at) but my AM never really got the opportunity on the ball as despite my CB's having what u would think being an easy couple of yards pass to my AM theyd opted for a longer ball to my ST.
i wouldnt have minded but i was playing WIN so the hole point of that is that my focal point of attacks should be my wingers be the supply line be coming from my AM or my back four.
so my worry is: my CB's are missing out my AM completely my AM isnt getting involved when im on the ball, my Wingers in a Winger orientated tactic are getting ignored.
a little confused.
I'll take a look at Fulham |
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Paul Hemmings Games Master
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| Subject: Re: Week 11 processing Wed 4 Apr - 15:30 | |
| firstly with Fulham they played away this week and its harder to give definitive answers from away matches as alot depends on the opposition and you were playing Plymouth who are themselves very good, but i'll do me best |
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Paul Hemmings Games Master
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| Subject: Re: Week 11 processing Wed 4 Apr - 15:35 | |
| Fulham GK LBCLCRRB AMBW LWTMCFRW FLY6
in this tactic the AM acts as a ferry between def and the TM but its the TM who is the hub of things so we have
AM Jagielka 29 CBAM ta8 kn7
TM Robben 28 LWTM co9 ae9 sp9 sh9 vo9 kn9 vi7 dr9 tr9
LW Milner 26 DYLHLW qu7 ae7 dr6 tr6 cg9
RW Valencia 26 RW qu8 ae7 dr9 tr9 cg8
CF Zamora 31 CF hd8 sh6 vo6 ae8 st8 |
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Rob@Barcelona World Star - 99/99
Posts : 3366 Reputation : 1311 Join date : 2009-11-29 Age : 52 Location : London
| Subject: Re: Week 11 processing Wed 4 Apr - 15:38 | |
| Paul, Great feedback. Thanks. I assume the more players in the box the opportunity of scoring but the goals get shared out more? Or is it that they get in each others way?
Also what was the status on the reviews from the previous turn?
Thanks. |
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Paul Hemmings Games Master
Posts : 39332 Reputation : 3180 Join date : 2009-12-02 Location : Cornwall
| Subject: Re: Week 11 processing Wed 4 Apr - 15:40 | |
| FLY is a very attacking formation with 4 players in attack all the time so you leave the midfield pretty empty most of the time and away from home this can be quite dangerous and i think if Rooney had been playing you would have lost this game.
Away from home you may be better off dropping your wingers back as winghalves and playing CAT instead against the better sides, although its still a good idea to play FLY away from home against weaker sides. |
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Paul Hemmings Games Master
Posts : 39332 Reputation : 3180 Join date : 2009-12-02 Location : Cornwall
| Subject: Re: Week 11 processing Wed 4 Apr - 15:43 | |
| - Rob@Inter wrote:
- Paul, Great feedback. Thanks. I assume the more players in the box the opportunity of scoring but the goals get shared out more? Or is it that they get in each others way?
Also what was the status on the reviews from the previous turn?
Thanks. reviews are done the week they are sent in unless I dont have time, if i did a review it should have said in your feedback, if you didnt notice any changes then it was probably a subtle review and may not have affected PT or CR or skills. but if it says I did one then I did. If its not what you wanted then feel free to review them again. I did say about Varane during the review of the turns last week I think it was. Ive still never really seen him or heard much about him. |
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Paul Hemmings Games Master
Posts : 39332 Reputation : 3180 Join date : 2009-12-02 Location : Cornwall
| Subject: Re: Week 11 processing Wed 4 Apr - 15:43 | |
| lets see what happened in the match for Fulham against Plymouth |
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Paul Hemmings Games Master
Posts : 39332 Reputation : 3180 Join date : 2009-12-02 Location : Cornwall
| Subject: Re: Week 11 processing Wed 4 Apr - 16:06 | |
| attack 1 Jagielka AM - Robben - Milner - avoids Johnson - crosslow ( gusting wind ) - Zabaleta - beaten by Vermaelen
similar thing here to what is happening with Inter, do you really want Zaba on the end of crosses ? if not then tell him to stay back. You had Robben, Zamora and Valencia as well as Zaba up for the cross.
attack 2 Jagielka AM - looking for Robben - bad longball
Robben is playing his usual attacking game and may be too far upfield for the AM to find with a shortball, there will be quite a few Plymouth players between your AM and your TM in this game
attack 3 Palacios - Robben - gets past Essien - then holds the ball too long and allows Essien to get possession
this normally happens away from home with FLY because the CFLWRW are all being marked at this point and you have nobody coming through from midfield to create space, I see you were playing with an AM and a BW
attack 4 Jagielka - Robben - Milner - fouled by Johnson
attack 5 Jagielka - Robben - Milner - avoids Johnson - cuts in - shoot deflected goalkick poor ref decision
attack 6 Jagielka - Robben - Milner - bad control
attack 7 Skrtel - Jagielka - Robben - Milner - badpass back to Robben
attack 8 Palacios - Robben - beaten by Essien
attack 9 Jagielka - Robben - Milner - avoids Johnson - crosslow - Zamora - avoids Vermaelen - shoot saved corner
attack 10 Carasso - Skrtel - Jagielka - longball - Zamora - beaten by Ferdinand
attack 11 jagielka - bad shortpass to Robben
attack 12 Jagielka - Robben - Milner - avoids Johnson - cutsin - shoot - post - goalkick
attack 13 Palacios - Robben - avoids Essien - then holds but too long and loses out to Vermaelen
attack 14 Palacios - Robben - tackled by Essien
attack 15 Jagielka - Robben - Milner - bad control
attack 16 Palacios - Robben - tackled by Essien throwin
attack 17 Jagielka - Robben - Milner - fouled by Johnson - freekick to Valencia - avoids Johnson - crosslow ( gusting wind ) - Jagielka - beaten by Ferdinand
attack 18 Carasso - Zabaleta - Jagielka - Robben - Milner - Robben - bad control under pressure from Vermaelen
attack 19 Zamora gets possession from Vermaelen - fouled by Essien - freekick - Valencia - skips past Essien - dribble into the box - avoids Vermaelen - shoot saved
you created 4 chances to Plymouth's 2 |
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Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: Week 11 processing Wed 4 Apr - 16:10 | |
| I would have played CAT this week had cullers form not been poor.
I hate the fact that iv been going away from home with 4 forwards, way too attacking and am looking to rectify this asap |
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